1 00:00:07,970 --> 00:00:04,610 seemingly out of nowhere 2 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:07,980 the expression Giants on Earth crops up 3 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:11,519 in Genesis 6 4. 4 00:00:16,670 --> 00:00:13,980 the meaning of some Bible passages is 5 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:16,680 not as obvious as it might appear at 6 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:22,970 we have heard of the Nephilim the sons 7 00:00:32,749 --> 00:00:30,349 it presents us with a very strange 8 00:00:36,049 --> 00:00:32,759 possibility that we do not live alone 9 00:00:38,450 --> 00:00:36,059 and there are others Among Us 10 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:38,460 if so where do they come from 11 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:40,800 what do they look like what are they 12 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:43,800 here for and are they still here 13 00:00:47,810 --> 00:00:45,840 time and time again they are mentioned 14 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:47,820 throughout our history 15 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:51,420 well we have Mr James Keenan 16 00:00:58,189 --> 00:00:54,420 coming on the podcast today and he is a 17 00:01:00,049 --> 00:00:58,199 researcher of not only High strangeness 18 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:00,059 in the uina basin 19 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,680 but Giants UFOs aliens and more 20 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:07,200 we're going to get into 21 00:01:12,649 --> 00:01:10,380 the ins and the outs 22 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:12,659 of these Giants 23 00:01:18,410 --> 00:01:15,780 whether they live in caves Underground 24 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:18,420 and possibly more important where they 25 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,939 live on the planet Earth we will also 26 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:22,860 delve into the possibility that the 27 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:25,200 Fallen Angels were in some sense the 28 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:27,960 fathers of the old Giants 29 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:30,600 which was the constant opinion of 30 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,280 antiquity 31 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:34,560 and ancient texts 32 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:37,280 Utah has a long history 33 00:01:44,090 --> 00:01:40,920 incorporating mythology and Legend 34 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:44,100 surrounding the Enigma of giant 35 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:49,670 there are also examples of this in 36 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:50,520 Nevada 37 00:01:55,010 --> 00:01:53,100 with the Lovelock cave area 38 00:01:57,950 --> 00:01:55,020 there are examples of this in 39 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:57,960 Afghanistan and many other places around 40 00:02:04,850 --> 00:01:59,040 the world 41 00:02:08,210 --> 00:02:04,860 haven't you subscribed to Hero 42 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:08,220 paranormal on patreon we have a ton of 43 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:10,020 content waiting for you behind the 44 00:02:16,910 --> 00:02:13,620 paywall very easy to access you just go 45 00:02:22,430 --> 00:02:20,089 or you can go to patreon and look up 46 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:22,440 hero paranormal 47 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:24,959 as I said a ton of content behind the 48 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00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:25,259 episode tonight we have none other than 81 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:26,720 James Keenan 82 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:29,520 researcher of the Uinta Basin and Giants 83 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:32,520 worldwide he's looked into this Enigma 84 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:35,340 not only at the petroglyphs the stomping 85 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:38,699 grounds and delving deeply into the 86 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:40,800 research but he's asking the larger 87 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:42,900 questions questions that keep me coming 88 00:04:46,969 --> 00:04:43,919 back 89 00:04:49,850 --> 00:04:46,979 and I just like James uh James has been 90 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:49,860 out to the science project that we have 91 00:04:56,810 --> 00:04:53,460 space Wolf research in the Uintah Basin 92 00:04:59,090 --> 00:04:56,820 of Utah and he has some incredible 93 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,100 insights when it comes to a lot of 94 00:05:05,450 --> 00:05:01,680 things so this should be a stunner of an 95 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:05,460 episode James Keenan welcome back to the 96 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:08,639 hero paranormal podcast hey Ryan how you 97 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:10,560 doing thanks for having me back on oh 98 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:12,660 I'm so excited to talk to you I know 99 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:15,300 that you are interested in a lot of the 100 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:18,720 things that I'm interested in and among 101 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:22,740 those things is uh Giants and we we find 102 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:25,199 that there is a lot of history 103 00:05:29,450 --> 00:05:27,840 surrounding this and a question I don't 104 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:29,460 know if I've asked you in the past and 105 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:31,860 it's been it's been kind of itching at 106 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:34,080 me is what started you along this path 107 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:36,300 of looking into not only High 108 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:38,520 strangeness but being so fascinated with 109 00:05:46,129 --> 00:05:41,460 this Enigma of giants 110 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:46,139 yeah so uh doing a lot of excavation and 111 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:48,860 work down in Mexico 112 00:05:52,850 --> 00:05:51,360 you just you can't help but notice 113 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:52,860 there's some things that are out of 114 00:05:57,170 --> 00:05:53,759 place 115 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:57,180 and when you're collecting oral 116 00:06:00,770 --> 00:05:58,800 Traditions 117 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:00,780 um you know and ethnologies and things 118 00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:03,080 of that nature from 119 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:07,020 the locals especially if they have Maya 120 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:10,560 descent or not a waddle descent 121 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:14,280 you can't help but come across all these 122 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:17,820 stories of everybody talking about the 123 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:19,800 the beginning the beginning origin 124 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:22,400 everything leads back to Giants 125 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:26,880 including the codices which were these 126 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:28,639 fig parchment type 127 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:31,380 scroll books that were created by the 128 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:33,840 Maya and created by the Aztec and the 129 00:06:40,909 --> 00:06:38,880 mishtek and you know the Toltec and all 130 00:06:43,370 --> 00:06:40,919 their oral tradition 131 00:06:44,510 --> 00:06:43,380 leads back to these people of great 132 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,520 stature 133 00:06:48,529 --> 00:06:46,800 and it 134 00:06:52,010 --> 00:06:48,539 you're constantly being told it's 135 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:52,020 mythology it's folklore you know in the 136 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:54,300 course of your study 137 00:06:58,850 --> 00:06:57,479 you can't help but wonder how is it 138 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:58,860 possible that 139 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:00,840 ninety percent of everything leads back 140 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:04,080 to this without there being truth to it 141 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:06,840 so that's that's what you know led me on 142 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:09,120 this path and then you you find out that 143 00:07:14,090 --> 00:07:11,340 there's all these different groups you 144 00:07:17,749 --> 00:07:14,100 have the kinemitzen you have the uemas 145 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,759 the star not que the site and it goes on 146 00:07:22,029 --> 00:07:19,199 and on you know the Native American 147 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:22,039 groups in North America 148 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:25,560 uh also have all these different names 149 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,900 for these people of great stature they 150 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:29,759 tell you that their ancestors came in 151 00:07:35,089 --> 00:07:32,639 contact with them later mated with them 152 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:35,099 at the beginnings they were enslaved by 153 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:38,520 some in order to perform mining duties 154 00:07:42,050 --> 00:07:39,900 for 155 00:07:44,029 --> 00:07:42,060 um you know metals and other minerals 156 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:44,039 and 157 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:47,220 at some point I was just like this it 158 00:07:52,129 --> 00:07:49,500 can't just be folklore mythology there 159 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:52,139 has to be a truth to this 160 00:07:57,950 --> 00:07:55,199 I couldn't agree more I think there's so 161 00:08:01,070 --> 00:07:57,960 much to this and the oral Traditions 162 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:01,080 which are a lot of the traditions in 163 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:03,360 Native American culture are all are all 164 00:08:10,370 --> 00:08:06,599 oral and to not pay attention to this I 165 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:10,380 think would be a huge mistake and you 166 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:12,240 know according to the northern Paiute 167 00:08:19,249 --> 00:08:16,680 oral history the site are a legendary uh 168 00:08:22,010 --> 00:08:19,259 tribe and there has been mummified 169 00:08:26,930 --> 00:08:22,020 remains found and other things 170 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:26,940 discovered both in Nevada and Utah let's 171 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:30,240 kind of delve into Utah if I know that 172 00:08:35,149 --> 00:08:32,159 that's a common point that we both have 173 00:08:38,209 --> 00:08:35,159 we're both very interested in this and 174 00:08:41,089 --> 00:08:38,219 just just delve right into right into it 175 00:08:44,209 --> 00:08:41,099 just jump right into the amazing 176 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:44,219 petroglyphs in Utah what they depict and 177 00:08:48,230 --> 00:08:46,500 your thoughts about them 178 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:48,240 oh yeah so 179 00:08:53,870 --> 00:08:51,240 when we discuss uh barrier Canyon style 180 00:08:57,650 --> 00:08:53,880 which is this desert archaic group that 181 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:57,660 was pre Fremont does the desert archaic 182 00:09:04,430 --> 00:09:00,000 the barrier Canyon style in the Fremont 183 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:04,440 were this very large groupings of Native 184 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:08,100 Americans or other that were in the Utah 185 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:13,680 area that were prior to the oldest which 186 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:15,360 uh Native Americans that we know of 187 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:18,180 which were the Paiute and the Shoshone 188 00:09:22,070 --> 00:09:19,800 and 189 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,080 it's really interesting that 190 00:09:28,009 --> 00:09:24,959 unfortunately they're all lumped into 191 00:09:30,769 --> 00:09:28,019 barrier Canyon style and Fremont culture 192 00:09:31,870 --> 00:09:30,779 and this barrier Canyon style has these 193 00:09:34,430 --> 00:09:31,880 weird 194 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:34,440 anthropomorphic and uh 195 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:37,080 petroglyphs and pick the grass of these 196 00:09:42,769 --> 00:09:40,080 massively tall creatures 197 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:42,779 which don't even look human 198 00:09:49,250 --> 00:09:45,740 and then you move a little bit uh 199 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:49,260 more in into the future and you come 200 00:09:53,930 --> 00:09:51,180 across the Fremont culture 201 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:53,940 and again they're grouped into Fremont 202 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:56,160 culture but it appears that there were 203 00:10:02,690 --> 00:09:58,440 many different groups some might have 204 00:10:04,610 --> 00:10:02,700 had uh ancestral Pueblo and Origins you 205 00:10:08,329 --> 00:10:04,620 know others Hopi 206 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:08,339 and they have these trapezoidal large 207 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:11,120 figures that 208 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,160 are extremely large compared to other 209 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:16,640 anthropomorphic 210 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:19,260 petroglyphs around them that seem to 211 00:10:25,009 --> 00:10:22,560 signify humans homo sapien and it makes 212 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:25,019 you're like well what the heck is this 213 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:29,279 and as you move to Northeast Utah you 214 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:32,399 come into Vernal style Fremont 215 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:34,620 which is very unique 216 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:38,100 uh up at McConkey Ranch you have a 217 00:10:41,530 --> 00:10:40,260 petroglyphs that's well over six feet 218 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:41,540 tall 219 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:44,160 the anthropomorphic figure has this 220 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:46,560 elongated skull 221 00:10:50,269 --> 00:10:49,200 six fingers on each hand and massive 222 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:50,279 feet 223 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:53,700 and they're headhunting 224 00:10:59,870 --> 00:10:57,000 and what a lot of people don't realize 225 00:11:02,329 --> 00:10:59,880 is the Vernal style Fremont were a very 226 00:11:04,970 --> 00:11:02,339 unique group unlike any other Fremont 227 00:11:06,350 --> 00:11:04,980 culture they were practicing skull 228 00:11:09,050 --> 00:11:06,360 elongation 229 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:09,060 which very few people know and it makes 230 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:10,320 you wonder what the hell were they 231 00:11:14,449 --> 00:11:12,240 trying to simulate what did they see or 232 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:14,459 come into contact with that required 233 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:17,519 this to show the elite status of those 234 00:11:21,949 --> 00:11:19,740 that were in power why do they want to 235 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:21,959 look this way 236 00:11:25,970 --> 00:11:24,420 and 237 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:25,980 as you 238 00:11:31,730 --> 00:11:30,000 progress through other locations other 239 00:11:35,389 --> 00:11:31,740 cultural sites 240 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:35,399 it's the same thing and they're lacking 241 00:11:42,170 --> 00:11:38,880 common day features like you don't see 242 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:42,180 dance you don't see musical instruments 243 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:44,820 in the petroglyphs you don't see mais or 244 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:48,600 corn it's missing it's lacking compared 245 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:50,040 to everywhere else like you go down to 246 00:11:59,210 --> 00:11:56,160 Hohokam in Arizona the sinua magion and 247 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:59,220 you see this you see these uh Kokopelli 248 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:00,079 type 249 00:12:03,829 --> 00:12:01,800 anthropomors where they're they're 250 00:12:06,170 --> 00:12:03,839 playing the flutes and dancing and 251 00:12:08,630 --> 00:12:06,180 common day occurrences you know you see 252 00:12:13,009 --> 00:12:08,640 them 253 00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:13,019 put into the rock art the location and 254 00:12:17,810 --> 00:12:15,300 we're missing 95 percent of that here in 255 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:17,820 Utah and you gotta ask yourself 256 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:21,120 why you know what was going on here and 257 00:12:28,009 --> 00:12:24,120 it appears that there were other groups 258 00:12:31,250 --> 00:12:28,019 of uh individuals of great stature that 259 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:31,260 they were coming in contact with 260 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:33,720 you know I find this so fascinating 261 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:36,740 because you mentioned the Coco Pele like 262 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:39,300 uh suggestion and I think it's 263 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:41,040 appropriate to kind of bring in a little 264 00:12:47,210 --> 00:12:43,380 bit of theology here because 265 00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:47,220 what's with the Pope's giant symbol and 266 00:12:52,610 --> 00:12:50,339 this is a you know we have a pope and 267 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:52,620 not to get too religious but he was 268 00:12:58,129 --> 00:12:54,600 recently seen wearing 269 00:12:59,629 --> 00:12:58,139 a garment that had for all intents and 270 00:13:03,470 --> 00:12:59,639 purposes 271 00:13:06,530 --> 00:13:03,480 a a giant a Petroglyph uh representing 272 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:06,540 the equiqua in the north and this 273 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:08,700 symbolizes you know it's it's kind of 274 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:10,920 strange because on one hand he's 275 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:13,800 supposed to not believe in these sorts 276 00:13:19,370 --> 00:13:16,200 of things and yet on the other hand he 277 00:13:21,769 --> 00:13:19,380 is from you know South America this is 278 00:13:24,650 --> 00:13:21,779 symbolized in a lot of South American 279 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:24,660 culture and sure enough he's wearing it 280 00:13:29,329 --> 00:13:26,880 in some images what are your thoughts of 281 00:13:32,449 --> 00:13:29,339 that have you seen those images James 282 00:13:34,129 --> 00:13:32,459 I I have and and you know that's a great 283 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:34,139 point and 284 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,680 I feel that he's expressing the cultures 285 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:39,600 that are there and where he comes from 286 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:42,480 in South America that 287 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:45,480 he's basically saying that their their 288 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:47,760 history can be just as correct as 289 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:49,800 European history 290 00:13:57,230 --> 00:13:52,500 and it was his way of showing that 291 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,240 there's more to this world than what you 292 00:14:03,290 --> 00:14:00,480 know the Europeans forced upon everyone 293 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:03,300 especially those in the Americas 294 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:08,399 and he wanted to uh I guess clearly show 295 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:11,100 where he was from and that these people 296 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:13,440 are just as intelligent as those that 297 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:16,200 originated from Europe uh their culture 298 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:19,860 and their history was just as rich and 299 00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:24,540 they had just as much to offer uh the 300 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:27,899 world and that was his way of showing 301 00:14:34,129 --> 00:14:31,040 that they're just as right as the 302 00:14:35,569 --> 00:14:34,139 Catholicism was that originated you know 303 00:14:38,750 --> 00:14:35,579 over in Europe 304 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:38,760 I love it man I can't I can't agree more 305 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:41,760 and I think it's just so cool that this 306 00:14:47,810 --> 00:14:45,120 is permeating society in a way that I 307 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:47,820 think was uh was meant to happen because 308 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:51,360 it's a very real chain in the link of 309 00:14:57,949 --> 00:14:53,820 our history and kind of kind of delving 310 00:15:00,350 --> 00:14:57,959 into these other areas that have giant 311 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:00,360 symbolism and such 312 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:03,600 um the the Giants of Monte prama are 313 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,120 ancient stone sculptures created by the 314 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:08,720 neurogic civilization of Sardinia Italy 315 00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:12,959 and these were discovered in 1974 there 316 00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:15,300 are also petroglyphs in Sardinia 317 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:18,300 depicting Giants and you have spoken 318 00:15:24,650 --> 00:15:21,060 about some of the similarities between 319 00:15:27,050 --> 00:15:24,660 these Giants and the depictions and the 320 00:15:28,430 --> 00:15:27,060 uena Basin of Utah can we go into that a 321 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:28,440 little bit 322 00:15:35,329 --> 00:15:31,440 sure so when you look at the neuragic 323 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:35,339 cultures uh artifacts including the uh 324 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:38,760 Stone figures that they created that 325 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:40,320 were located there 326 00:15:46,189 --> 00:15:43,199 they also in Sardinia had the hypogems 327 00:15:47,650 --> 00:15:46,199 which were these underground uh 328 00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:47,660 burials 329 00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:54,180 and there was also a culture before the 330 00:15:58,490 --> 00:15:56,699 neuragic that had this these ties to 331 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:58,500 what we would consider these people of 332 00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:01,680 large stature and their what they would 333 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:03,839 consider the giant burials hat were 334 00:16:10,810 --> 00:16:06,839 these Upsilon symbols you know you know 335 00:16:14,269 --> 00:16:10,820 almost like a goal post in in football 336 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:14,279 like a a cup it looks like a cup 337 00:16:20,710 --> 00:16:18,360 and they were specifically made the face 338 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:20,720 the eyes the nose 339 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:24,300 and this was again you said at the 340 00:16:28,970 --> 00:16:26,220 neuragic culture which was a Bronze Age 341 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:28,980 culture in Sardinia there was also a 342 00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:31,380 trickling effect down the malta of these 343 00:16:35,569 --> 00:16:33,300 Giants 344 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:35,579 and then you come all the way over to 345 00:16:41,509 --> 00:16:39,180 Northeast Utah and you look at the Dry 346 00:16:44,449 --> 00:16:41,519 Fork Canyon petroglyphs 347 00:16:45,949 --> 00:16:44,459 and those around there and you went to 348 00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:45,959 mountains 349 00:16:51,710 --> 00:16:48,839 and they look almost identical almost 350 00:16:53,870 --> 00:16:51,720 100 percent identical in facial 351 00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:53,880 structure facial features the way the 352 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:56,759 eyes are the nose is you find the 353 00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,759 Upsilon symbol on the tunics or the 354 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:02,880 armor that one group of these Giants are 355 00:17:08,210 --> 00:17:06,120 wearing and it's really neat because 356 00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:08,220 you can categorize the Giants that were 357 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:10,199 in Northeast Utah into two groups one 358 00:17:16,510 --> 00:17:12,959 had an Upsilon symbol on the tunic and 359 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:16,520 the others had these two elongated 360 00:17:22,429 --> 00:17:19,439 rectangles from the shoulders down that 361 00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:22,439 don't quite meet in almost a v-shape 362 00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:24,540 they were head hunting 363 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:28,140 each other possibly cannibalism was also 364 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:29,160 involved 365 00:17:35,169 --> 00:17:31,380 but 366 00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:35,179 Luke is if I were to mix the artifacts 367 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:39,660 from Sardinia and Malta and some 368 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,600 artifacts that were located in uh around 369 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:44,940 Price Utah 370 00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:46,080 um and in that part of the Ashley 371 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:49,320 National Forest you know around a Nine 372 00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:51,600 Mile Canyon you wouldn't be able to tell 373 00:17:55,850 --> 00:17:52,740 the difference 374 00:17:59,169 --> 00:17:55,860 and you got to ask yourself you know how 375 00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,179 the heck is that possible and most 376 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:01,200 anthropologists and archaeologists don't 377 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:04,140 like to talk about diffusionism that you 378 00:18:07,970 --> 00:18:05,700 know everything originated from one 379 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:07,980 place and then just swept across the 380 00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:09,620 world because that would mean they were 381 00:18:15,409 --> 00:18:13,260 seafaring or other but you think about 382 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:15,419 it and a lot of these people of great 383 00:18:22,430 --> 00:18:17,940 stature are tied into being 384 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:22,440 um amazing uh seafarers uh on the ocean 385 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:25,200 traveling great distances and who 386 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:28,140 follows this are the Phoenicians and 387 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:29,640 where were the Phoenicians they were in 388 00:18:35,330 --> 00:18:33,480 Malta Sardinia even possibly here in the 389 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:35,340 desert Southwest because we find a lot 390 00:18:40,909 --> 00:18:38,460 of their symbols in the Rocks either 391 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:40,919 pictographs or petroglyphs you hear 392 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:42,840 about it in oral Traditions all the way 393 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:46,559 from the Gulf of Mexico all the way to 394 00:18:52,909 --> 00:18:49,860 the West Coast of Mexico or current day 395 00:18:57,529 --> 00:18:52,919 Mexico and then straight up northward 396 00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:57,539 and it makes you wonder if 397 00:19:03,470 --> 00:19:00,900 the Phoenicians came into contact with 398 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:03,480 or learned about through ancient books 399 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:05,760 or texts that are now lost or stories 400 00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:08,400 and followed those people of great 401 00:19:14,289 --> 00:19:10,740 stature throughout the world in the same 402 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:14,299 conquest of minerals Metals gold silver 403 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:16,620 copper I mean look at the amount of 404 00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:18,660 copper that was mined here in the 405 00:19:22,610 --> 00:19:20,340 Americas that we're still trying to 406 00:19:25,310 --> 00:19:22,620 figure out you know who did it and where 407 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:25,320 did it end up 408 00:19:32,289 --> 00:19:28,860 it's so true and I I really like how 409 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:32,299 there is more than one region an area 410 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,000 that is revealing secrets of the past 411 00:19:40,909 --> 00:19:38,880 and lending Credence to the study 412 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:40,919 academically of Giants and these 413 00:19:46,669 --> 00:19:44,400 discoveries just keep on coming 414 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,679 um I'm reminded of the Love Lock cave 415 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:48,960 here in Nevada where originally they 416 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:53,940 thought that this large mummy was 15 to 417 00:19:58,850 --> 00:19:57,360 2 000 years old and now they have found 418 00:20:04,490 --> 00:19:58,860 that it may be 419 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:04,500 much older uh possibly 10 600 years old 420 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,140 which is just mind-blowing blows all of 421 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:09,720 the Egyptian mummies away and here again 422 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:12,720 we have this amazing 423 00:20:17,810 --> 00:20:15,840 Paiute Shoshone tribe a group of Native 424 00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:17,820 Americans based in the Nevada desert 425 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:20,820 near this cave which claim cultural 426 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:22,140 affiliation 427 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:24,360 not only with the tales and the 428 00:20:29,210 --> 00:20:27,240 mythology but they there's there's a lot 429 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:29,220 of stories lending Credence to this and 430 00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:32,280 it's not just here in the deserts of the 431 00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:34,740 Southwest in the United States I want to 432 00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:38,340 jump to the Kandahar giant which I think 433 00:20:41,690 --> 00:20:40,200 is mind-blowing because it's a more 434 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:41,700 modern 435 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:43,860 depiction of what we're talking about 436 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:46,740 and that's that's just this giant which 437 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,960 was an enormous humanoid creature 438 00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:51,600 allegedly I should say encountered and 439 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:53,400 killed by a group of American army 440 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:55,140 soldiers on a Mountainside in 441 00:21:01,010 --> 00:20:59,520 Afghanistan yet the depiction and the 442 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:01,020 way that they 443 00:21:06,289 --> 00:21:03,900 say this thing looked Falls right into 444 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:06,299 place and right into line with a lot of 445 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,340 these other depictions what are your 446 00:21:14,510 --> 00:21:11,039 thoughts of the Kandahar Giant 447 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:14,520 so I I've heard of it and I've heard the 448 00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:17,220 stories but I I really don't know a 449 00:21:22,370 --> 00:21:20,160 whole lot about it and 450 00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:22,380 I think there's a you know a group 451 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:24,780 online that say it didn't exist and 452 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:27,840 others that attempt to say that it did 453 00:21:36,010 --> 00:21:32,460 but I have yet to see anything that's 454 00:21:39,370 --> 00:21:36,020 directed its way back to a first-hand 455 00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:39,380 knowledge that's been told to people so 456 00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:41,880 the possibilities you know there's 457 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:44,340 hundreds and hundreds of caverns uh 458 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:46,500 caves and Cavern systems running through 459 00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:49,380 the mountains that are uh around 460 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:53,460 Afghanistan and those areas are so 461 00:22:00,049 --> 00:21:56,880 ancient I mean you're talking about what 462 00:22:02,330 --> 00:22:00,059 was told to be possibly origin you know 463 00:22:05,330 --> 00:22:02,340 near Mesopotamia and things of that 464 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:05,340 nature very close to that 465 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:08,900 so I mean is it possible sure 466 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:11,340 look at all the 467 00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:13,860 creatures that we've found recently you 468 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:15,720 know after tsunamis and things of that 469 00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:16,740 nature that were supposed to have been 470 00:22:21,649 --> 00:22:18,179 extinct for hundreds of millions of 471 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:21,659 years and washed up on the shores so is 472 00:22:25,549 --> 00:22:23,700 it possible that 473 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:25,559 um you know there's underground Cavern 474 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:27,480 systems that extend throughout the world 475 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,320 oh absolutely you find that here in 476 00:22:36,649 --> 00:22:34,320 Arizona where I'm at in New Mexico the 477 00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:36,659 caverns run for hundreds of miles with 478 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:38,700 cenotes everywhere that very few people 479 00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:41,460 know same up in Utah through the uintas 480 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,159 there's Cavern systems everywhere so I 481 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:45,840 think it would be a really good place to 482 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:49,020 hide or to you know live and create a 483 00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:52,760 society elsewhere away from our current 484 00:23:00,770 --> 00:22:55,860 civilization so if there was a 485 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:00,780 possibility of uh creature or a human of 486 00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:04,620 that size that stature having not been 487 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,679 seen or found or 488 00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:09,360 enculturated into our civilization that 489 00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:12,900 would probably be the best way of you 490 00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:14,580 know being kept out of society was 491 00:23:18,529 --> 00:23:16,740 possibly living underground or in those 492 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:18,539 Cavern systems 493 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:20,700 I can't agree more and those cave 494 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,100 systems in northeastern Utah I can 495 00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:25,200 attest I've been in a few of them and 496 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:28,679 they go for what seems like forever you 497 00:23:34,250 --> 00:23:31,140 get up on the Red Cloud Loop you go down 498 00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:34,260 into the you in a basin from there and 499 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,500 these cave systems just go on and on and 500 00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:39,840 on and many of them they can't find the 501 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:42,120 end of they've tried putting dye into I 502 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:44,940 can attest to all that and I find it 503 00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:48,840 really interesting that at least Native 504 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:50,460 American culture 505 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:53,880 and it's mythology or Legend hits 506 00:23:58,909 --> 00:23:55,980 history it's oral history 507 00:24:02,090 --> 00:23:58,919 says that these Giants were harmful or 508 00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:02,100 were at least uh dangerous and would 509 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:05,280 for all intents and purposes attack the 510 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,760 tribes so my question is why is it that 511 00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:11,220 the pseudo-archeology and you know some 512 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,620 of the more controversial claims 513 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,120 are 514 00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:18,720 so debated among mainstream Scholars the 515 00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:20,700 general public why is it so hard for 516 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,679 people to wrap their heads around the 517 00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:24,960 possibility that some of this may have 518 00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:26,460 took place 519 00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:28,140 well yeah because if you have something 520 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:30,179 like that it would completely change 521 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:33,020 what we've been taught in school 522 00:24:39,649 --> 00:24:36,799 Academia would be wrong 523 00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:39,659 anthropologists archaeologists would you 524 00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:41,880 know think that they would look like 525 00:24:48,289 --> 00:24:45,059 like Stooges and they don't they don't 526 00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:48,299 want that they they want to be the ones 527 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,140 that are in control of what's being told 528 00:24:57,409 --> 00:24:54,960 um it's and people have to realize that 529 00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:57,419 you know scientists don't know 530 00:25:02,570 --> 00:24:59,580 everything they like to seem like they 531 00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:02,580 do and they throw a lot of jargon that 532 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,200 very few people understand to make 533 00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:06,240 themselves feel better about themselves 534 00:25:11,330 --> 00:25:09,659 and to you know put the Common Man in 535 00:25:12,169 --> 00:25:11,340 their place or the layperson in their 536 00:25:13,690 --> 00:25:12,179 place 537 00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:13,700 and 538 00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:17,340 they don't want to have that paradigm 539 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,380 shift into what ancient history was 540 00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:22,080 because it's going to shift history for 541 00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:26,400 Humanity for Homo sapiens far far back 542 00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:29,159 compared to what they're saying you know 543 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:31,799 they're saying that we really suddenly 544 00:25:36,909 --> 00:25:35,039 took off about 5 000 years ago that's a 545 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:36,919 Croc I mean you're probably talking 546 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,320 hundreds of thousands of years ago would 547 00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:42,480 be a better uh 548 00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:46,200 spot to begin or at least where we you 549 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,360 know suddenly took off and and what our 550 00:25:54,649 --> 00:25:50,640 Creations were and how we thought 551 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:54,659 but yeah um it would alter Academia and 552 00:25:59,450 --> 00:25:55,860 you have to remember and I kind of 553 00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:59,460 understand that you know these 554 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:01,260 people that work at the universities 555 00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:04,799 they run on grant money and they get 556 00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:08,100 that grant money from other people in 557 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,179 that same uh background who are going to 558 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:15,360 approve you know what they're positing 559 00:26:21,169 --> 00:26:18,120 towards uh being looked at being 560 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:21,179 researched and investigated and if it 561 00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:23,159 doesn't fit the Paradigm they're not 562 00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:25,020 going to get that money and if they 563 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,279 don't get that money they're not going 564 00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:28,799 to be able to go out and excavate make 565 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:31,700 new discoveries write a research paper 566 00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:35,640 have it peer-reviewed you know and keep 567 00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:39,299 it within that same box and you know 568 00:26:44,210 --> 00:26:41,580 then you lose your professorship your 569 00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:44,220 tenure and it's just this 570 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:47,700 the spiraling effect or a domino effect 571 00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:50,760 and I I understand that but at some 572 00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:52,200 point 573 00:26:56,169 --> 00:26:52,919 um 574 00:27:00,590 --> 00:26:56,179 it has to shift and I think 575 00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:00,600 as those older uh 576 00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:04,020 Academia those older professors retire 577 00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:06,900 or pass away I think the younger 578 00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:08,820 Generations are more open to the 579 00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:11,400 possibilities that history is not what 580 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,340 we've been told it's very easy that a 581 00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:16,799 lot of it was lost to Major catastrophic 582 00:27:21,649 --> 00:27:20,100 events which you know we know there was 583 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,659 a massive Deluge throughout the world 584 00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:23,760 that's documented by almost every 585 00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:27,299 freaking culture and civilization you 586 00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:28,980 know so at some point I think it'll 587 00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:29,900 happen 588 00:27:35,769 --> 00:27:32,940 probably within the next 25 years I 589 00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:35,779 think there'll be a big shift as to how 590 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:39,419 long you know our cultures and societies 591 00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:43,020 have been acting and moving forward the 592 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:44,520 way that we've been told I think it's 593 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,460 going to be a huge shift a lot farther 594 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:49,760 back into history 595 00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:52,799 yeah and sadly I have to agree with you 596 00:27:58,610 --> 00:27:55,340 it does seem like a lot of these things 597 00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:58,620 unfortunately bump up against that 598 00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:00,419 Financial 599 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:02,520 problem you know where money gets 600 00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:06,240 involved and it it's unfortunate because 601 00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:08,700 the research in my opinion is so much 602 00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,620 more important than that and we are kind 603 00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:12,299 of busting through there's there's light 604 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,279 seeping through these these uh 605 00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:16,640 boundaries of uh 606 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,919 mainstream historians and that kind of 607 00:28:25,490 --> 00:28:21,960 leads me to my next question there are a 608 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:25,500 lot of tales and they may just be tails 609 00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:31,200 of major museums AKA uh such as the 610 00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:36,059 Smithsonian and others and the stories 611 00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:38,820 that I've heard that when things are 612 00:28:45,649 --> 00:28:42,779 found of this nature they swoop in with 613 00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:45,659 agile quickness and kind of shut things 614 00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:48,059 down have you come across anything like 615 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:53,630 I 616 00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:01,919 museums in the back where a lot of stuff 617 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:02,940 for 618 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:06,740 incorrectly categorized and logged and 619 00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:09,900 packaged and forgotten about for 50 60 620 00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:13,080 70 80 years 100 years 621 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,220 um 622 00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:16,320 and 623 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:19,320 it gets stored in a basement or in a 624 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:20,640 drawer 625 00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:24,320 and it you know as we moved from 626 00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:28,919 cataloging and categorizing in books 627 00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:29,820 um 628 00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:31,980 into the and moving that onto the 629 00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:34,380 computer systems and the software all 630 00:29:39,710 --> 00:29:36,899 that was forgotten about and lost 631 00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:39,720 so I mean think about that too imagine 632 00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:41,880 if we can't keep track of history for 50 633 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:44,220 years or 100 years how are we going to 634 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:47,340 keep track of ancient history you know 635 00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:48,840 and 636 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,860 um 637 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:52,399 I've also 638 00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:55,320 there are some people again and we just 639 00:30:02,169 --> 00:29:58,020 kind of discussed about that that don't 640 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:02,179 want to lose their status 641 00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:03,779 in 642 00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:06,659 um history books or at their University 643 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:09,539 they don't want things to change 644 00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:11,880 because you know that would 645 00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:14,760 change how they're looked at it would 646 00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:16,740 become yesterday's news 647 00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,140 and a lot of them forget now that you 648 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:22,559 know science is meant to you know be 649 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,080 proven wrong and for the new the new 650 00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,080 understanding to come about and that 651 00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:31,279 that change is inevitable it's happened 652 00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:34,440 as long as we've you know kept track of 653 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:35,880 our history 654 00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:37,260 so 655 00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:39,539 um in regards to it being done 656 00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:40,919 intentionally 657 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:44,279 I I could definitely see why it would be 658 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,000 done I I've never personally experienced 659 00:30:52,370 --> 00:30:50,640 that so it's just something from you 660 00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:52,380 know firsthand knowledge I don't have 661 00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:56,460 that understanding of but yeah I mean 662 00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:01,200 I I could see you know uh that being 663 00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:03,240 done uh 664 00:31:09,769 --> 00:31:06,200 whether it was by accident or on purpose 665 00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,779 yeah and and I think kind of going back 666 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:12,000 to uh the the small discussion we had 667 00:31:16,730 --> 00:31:13,440 about the Pope 668 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:16,740 sporting that Petroglyph depiction of a 669 00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:19,919 giant on his clothing I can't help but 670 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:23,700 believe that the Vatican archives have 671 00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:26,520 valuable information concerning Giants 672 00:31:32,529 --> 00:31:29,340 at least historically unfortunately it's 673 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:32,539 unlikely I will ever see that and 674 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:36,240 speaking of keeping history keeping 675 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:38,940 journals things of that nature there is 676 00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:41,159 a story of a gentleman in Utah named 677 00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:43,320 John Brewer who claimed to have 678 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:47,159 discovered this chamber behind a place 679 00:31:52,909 --> 00:31:49,500 called Temple Hill in Manti Utah more 680 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:52,919 precisely a hill behind that but 681 00:32:00,289 --> 00:31:57,120 he claims that he made repeated returns 682 00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:00,299 to this cave and he was shown the cave 683 00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:02,700 beforehand from an elderly man named 684 00:32:07,370 --> 00:32:05,220 George Keller kellerher visited the 685 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:07,380 chamber in his Youth and he was shown by 686 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:09,720 a local native named Lone Eagle there 687 00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:11,640 seems to be an oral tradition and 688 00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:13,320 verification of that 689 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:17,159 yet again he had a journal and much like 690 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:18,720 the whole story 691 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,200 there's Doubt cast upon the entire claim 692 00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:24,960 because he he kept the journal to 693 00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:27,240 himself and he kept it a secret and I 694 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,220 think that shows the importance of 695 00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:31,200 sharing a lot of this knowledge even if 696 00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:31,980 it's 697 00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:34,140 in an oral tradition because a lot of 698 00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:35,940 this gets lost as you said it can be 699 00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:39,179 generation to generation 700 00:32:46,370 --> 00:32:42,779 yeah exactly that's uh 701 00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:46,380 it's an interesting 702 00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:48,659 choice that you chose mantai and 703 00:32:54,370 --> 00:32:50,760 Brewer's cave because that's something 704 00:32:59,149 --> 00:32:54,380 that our team has been looking into 705 00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:59,159 recently and we might have located it 706 00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,120 um 707 00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:02,399 and we're working on that right now 708 00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:06,299 we've been underground uh 709 00:33:16,669 --> 00:33:11,520 in Manti and there is a possibility that 710 00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:16,679 it might be what Brewer was doing so 711 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,019 um I I can't go into great detail about 712 00:33:25,009 --> 00:33:21,840 it but I'm hoping you know within the 713 00:33:27,529 --> 00:33:25,019 next year or so that we're maybe able to 714 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:27,539 make some type of Discovery 715 00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:28,620 um 716 00:33:35,169 --> 00:33:31,799 that goes into the description of this 717 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:35,179 uh Cave that he had dug into 718 00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:38,340 unfortunately he blew up the original 719 00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:41,159 entrance to keep people from going into 720 00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,640 it and then created a different vertical 721 00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:46,559 entrance which is a lot more difficult 722 00:33:52,509 --> 00:33:50,519 to locate and that's kind of the 723 00:33:54,850 --> 00:33:52,519 blockage that we've been coming across 724 00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:54,860 is uh 725 00:34:02,210 --> 00:33:57,779 trying to figure out where that vertical 726 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:03,950 wow 727 00:34:08,690 --> 00:34:05,220 okay 728 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,700 um kind of not not to pry into that but 729 00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:11,520 kind of delving into 730 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,480 the the mystery surrounding 731 00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:17,280 how they appeared or at least 732 00:34:21,609 --> 00:34:19,980 historically what Native Americans such 733 00:34:25,369 --> 00:34:21,619 as the Paiute 734 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,379 uh described it seems like these Giants 735 00:34:30,889 --> 00:34:27,599 were cannibalistic I mean that the 736 00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:30,899 Paiutes I believe called them the pneuma 737 00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:34,800 tikuta which is means people eaters and 738 00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:36,300 have you come across that in your 739 00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:37,980 research that these were in fact 740 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:40,980 cannibalistic 741 00:34:45,649 --> 00:34:43,800 so like we had we've touched on it they 742 00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,659 were Headhunters and there's a very good 743 00:34:51,470 --> 00:34:48,359 possibility that they were cannibalistic 744 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:51,480 and remember too that even the Aztec uh 745 00:34:56,990 --> 00:34:54,200 who are the part of the Judo Aztec and 746 00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,000 Native Americans which also include the 747 00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,820 Paiute and the Shoshone they practice 748 00:35:05,329 --> 00:35:02,400 cannibalism the Aztec who are really the 749 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:05,339 Kulu on the shika from Tenochtitlan so 750 00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:08,180 we have all these groups you know 751 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:11,339 what it signifies is a good question 752 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:13,980 we're not quite sure but yeah there's an 753 00:35:18,349 --> 00:35:17,040 absolute great possibility that they 754 00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:18,359 were 755 00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:19,160 um 756 00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:23,099 also uh you know when you the seat take 757 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,660 car that uh word is a tool either the 758 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:30,720 tool which is like a reed 759 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,660 um that grows in marshlands and a lot of 760 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,280 people forget that all of Northern 761 00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,400 Nevada was a massive Lake that only 762 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:40,859 recently dried up in the early 1930s 763 00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:45,480 because we dammed up the water so there 764 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:48,660 were these massive lakes and these tool 765 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:51,920 people well guess what they were living 766 00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:56,160 on Tool uh boats 767 00:36:04,250 --> 00:35:59,220 out in the lake they were creating tool 768 00:36:08,089 --> 00:36:04,260 duck decoys tools sandals uh which are 769 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:08,099 in museums in Carson City Nevada 770 00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,380 the they match directly with the giants 771 00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:14,880 that are known to live have lived in 772 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:17,579 South America the same type of 773 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:20,520 description around Lake Titicaca in Peru 774 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:24,240 same description in central Mexico and 775 00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:26,760 same description in Europe in such 776 00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:29,400 places as Malta where they were creating 777 00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:33,359 all these uh instruments out of reeds 778 00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:37,020 and that just that goes to tell you that 779 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,180 this is a worldwide event not uh 780 00:36:46,970 --> 00:36:42,000 localized and it's been suppressed 781 00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,980 forgotten about lost cataclysmic events 782 00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:48,720 um but it just goes to tell you that 783 00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:51,420 maybe including the cannibalism or the 784 00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:54,300 head hunting that these were widespread 785 00:36:58,609 --> 00:36:56,940 and not localized to just Nevada and 786 00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:58,619 Utah 787 00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:01,079 this is fascinating and you know the 788 00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:02,460 descriptions 789 00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:06,119 you hear red hair multiple rows of teeth 790 00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:10,140 and I mean abstractly even in today's 791 00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,800 age we have individuals or people who 792 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:15,839 have a genetic background of 793 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,040 supernumerary teeth and it seems to be 794 00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:21,839 characterized by an excessive number of 795 00:37:26,290 --> 00:37:24,420 teeth in relation to the normal amount 796 00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:26,300 that should be in your mouth 797 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,339 there are some scientific uh 798 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,680 explanations of this but it could be 799 00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:33,720 genetic and 800 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,780 it brings me to the fact that they were 801 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:39,359 described as having for the most part 802 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:42,680 red hair multiple rows of teeth 803 00:37:50,329 --> 00:37:47,820 I've even heard of more one extra digit 804 00:37:53,089 --> 00:37:50,339 um anything come to mind as far as 805 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:53,099 descriptions in the oral Traditions that 806 00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:55,320 kind of stand out 807 00:38:01,089 --> 00:37:58,140 sure so yeah you you know you hit it 808 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:01,099 right on the head they were supposedly 809 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:03,500 polydactly so they had 810 00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:07,380 six digits on their hands a lot of them 811 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,960 had six digits on their feet 812 00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:12,720 you can even one history book that a lot 813 00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:15,240 of people believe in the Bible goes back 814 00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:17,880 to tell that these people of Rafa the 815 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:21,119 the their genealogy goes back to Rafa 816 00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:25,260 including uh Goliath had 24 digits total 817 00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:28,200 you know and 818 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:30,180 um a lot of them were Auburn here which 819 00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:33,060 is very close to red-haired uh in 820 00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:36,359 regards to the the teeth I've I've never 821 00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:40,260 seen dentition or a mandible personally 822 00:38:44,569 --> 00:38:43,440 in order to you know be able to say yeah 823 00:38:47,569 --> 00:38:44,579 um 824 00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:47,579 I I've come across this but in the oral 825 00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:49,560 tradition like you're asking 826 00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:53,220 yeah they these people of great stature 827 00:38:57,290 --> 00:38:54,780 some of them 828 00:39:00,730 --> 00:38:57,300 um had these extra digits they had they 829 00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:00,740 were over seven feet tall they had 830 00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:05,160 the ability or to eat humans there's a 831 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:09,359 lot of oral tradition with the ute 832 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:11,820 um specific that they've actually now 833 00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:14,760 logged into books about talking about 834 00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:19,859 having to stop this large individual 835 00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:22,740 that was eating all the youth uh he and 836 00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:24,180 his two wives 837 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:27,660 and it took a big sword to cut his head 838 00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:28,440 off 839 00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:30,079 which is another 840 00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:33,180 interesting thing too because I don't 841 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:34,859 remember 842 00:39:38,569 --> 00:39:37,260 um the Ute having swords but it's in 843 00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,579 that tradition and it could have been it 844 00:39:41,569 --> 00:39:40,320 might have been a different or a similar 845 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:41,579 type weapon 846 00:39:44,569 --> 00:39:43,500 to it but that was how the translation 847 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:44,579 went 848 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,260 so yeah it's just it comes back to all 849 00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:52,079 these similarities uh you know whether 850 00:39:58,569 --> 00:39:55,440 you be in the Mesoamerican area or South 851 00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,579 America here in the desert Southwest 852 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:02,040 and it really makes you you know stop it 853 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:03,960 and wonder what was going on it's just 854 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:07,440 really cool it is so cool because I 855 00:40:13,609 --> 00:40:09,720 think there's just enough out there that 856 00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:13,619 this is something that cannot be avoided 857 00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:15,960 or completely neglected especially when 858 00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:19,380 you hear stories such as Brewer's cave 859 00:40:25,010 --> 00:40:21,780 which is fairly recent or the Kandahar 860 00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:25,020 giant again fairly recent This lends 861 00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:27,300 Credence to the fact that there could 862 00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:31,020 still be some of these Giants living in 863 00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:33,540 various parts of the world and you know 864 00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:36,540 an archaic Legend uh recounts that the 865 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,720 Giza Pyramids may have been built by a 866 00:40:46,849 --> 00:40:42,240 race of Giants and it was shared in a 867 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:46,859 lecture by Freemason manly P hall and 868 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:49,560 giantologist Kristen T Harris and they 869 00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:52,800 put it in a YouTube video and I think 870 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:55,260 the lecture was Atlantis and the gods of 871 00:41:02,210 --> 00:40:58,880 antiquity have you come across any other 872 00:41:05,770 --> 00:41:02,220 myth legend or stories of giants 873 00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:05,780 building things such as Mounds in Ohio 874 00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:08,520 or other parts of the United States or 875 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:10,200 the world 876 00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:13,260 as a matter of fact yes pyramid of 877 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:17,460 Cholula in Mexico just outside of Mexico 878 00:41:23,089 --> 00:41:20,880 City was said to have been built or at 879 00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:23,099 least directed by one of Seven Brothers 880 00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:26,339 of seven giants that survived the major 881 00:41:32,329 --> 00:41:28,760 the last major deluge 882 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:32,339 and the other brothers uh have been 883 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:34,980 traced back to possibly having helped 884 00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:38,160 build or been part of the Architects 885 00:41:45,530 --> 00:41:43,020 that design uh teotewakan so you have 886 00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:45,540 the uh 887 00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:49,859 Toltec and the Aztec and other different 888 00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:54,480 uh older cultures and civilizations that 889 00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:56,820 specifically said yes it was these Seven 890 00:42:00,010 --> 00:41:58,859 Brothers of great size they were the 891 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:00,020 Giants 892 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,520 that built the largest pyramid in the 893 00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:07,920 world which is the Pyramid of Cholula by 894 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:10,500 volume it's twice the size of the Great 895 00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:13,260 Pyramid of Giza 896 00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:15,000 wow 897 00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:17,099 yeah I mean you would think you know 898 00:42:23,150 --> 00:42:19,500 even if even on the lower end if you had 899 00:42:26,589 --> 00:42:23,160 if you had men in the seven to nine foot 900 00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:26,599 range you can only imagine the 901 00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:30,119 musculoskeletal ability to move things 902 00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:32,220 around and build things 903 00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:35,400 and uh there have been accounts of the 904 00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:38,280 Giants being even larger than that what 905 00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:40,440 have you come across in your research as 906 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:43,079 far as some of the sizes have you heard 907 00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:45,420 of what's the biggest you've heard of I 908 00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:47,220 guess is my question 909 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,180 oh gosh when I went uh up to Reno 910 00:42:56,329 --> 00:42:53,820 um to the the museum up there to go 911 00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:56,339 through JT reads 912 00:43:03,770 --> 00:42:59,160 um he had 65 boxes 913 00:43:06,890 --> 00:43:03,780 of documentation and articles uh that he 914 00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:06,900 had kept and he was obsessed with the 915 00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:08,819 site car and those that were out of 916 00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:11,940 Lovelock cave he said he'd actually seen 917 00:43:16,849 --> 00:43:15,420 several of the the larger mummies 918 00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:16,859 um that had come out while they were 919 00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:20,300 mining um the bat guano in the cave 920 00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:22,440 and uh 921 00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:23,579 he 922 00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:26,760 if you're talking 65 Banker boxes of 923 00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:29,160 information and I only went through six 924 00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:32,460 of those boxes and it took days but I 925 00:43:35,770 --> 00:43:34,740 mean he was documenting even using a lot 926 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:35,780 of map 927 00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:40,920 in his diagrams of up to 12 13 feet that 928 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:42,180 were being found and believe it or not 929 00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:46,079 in California most of these were the the 930 00:43:49,569 --> 00:43:47,400 larger ones were being found in 931 00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:49,579 California which again goes to other 932 00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:51,900 stories and traditions that they had 933 00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:53,819 actually taken over the Channel Islands 934 00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:56,760 off of the uh coast of California around 935 00:44:00,109 --> 00:43:58,680 Santa Barbara that they were all out 936 00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:00,119 there 937 00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:02,880 um and even the schumach talk about not 938 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,220 just seeing these these people of great 939 00:44:09,410 --> 00:44:07,200 stature but the shumash also saw a lot 940 00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:09,420 of things in the air in their 941 00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:11,180 pictographs which are probably the most 942 00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:13,560 beautiful pictographs I've ever seen in 943 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:16,920 my life they seem to have seen a lot of 944 00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:21,119 activity involving UAP was that part of 945 00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:23,220 the Giants I don't know but they were 946 00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:26,520 logging them together so I'm not quite 947 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:28,740 sure what to make out of that 948 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,040 but uh yeah I mean it it's it's 949 00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,040 incredible so probably about 12 to 13 950 00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,319 feet but here's something that's really 951 00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:40,140 kind of cool is when the Conquistadors 952 00:44:44,329 --> 00:44:41,819 the Spaniards were traveling through the 953 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,339 desert Southwest they 954 00:44:50,329 --> 00:44:47,040 on many occasions kept coming across 955 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,339 these people of great stature that were 956 00:44:54,829 --> 00:44:52,800 over seven feet tall they averaged the 957 00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:54,839 women averaged about six foot six and 958 00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,300 the men were over seven feet that 959 00:45:02,510 --> 00:44:59,940 commonly had red hair auburn hair and 960 00:45:05,329 --> 00:45:02,520 blonde hair and 961 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:05,339 um so I had gone last uh 962 00:45:11,569 --> 00:45:08,060 summer to Mexico City to go to the 963 00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:11,579 anthropology Museum to go through the 964 00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:14,579 the journals of these conquistadors and 965 00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:17,220 unfortunately they've been moved to the 966 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:20,460 Museum of the Americas in Madrid Spain 967 00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,040 so my wife and I plan on heading out 968 00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:25,520 there hopefully in November of this year 969 00:45:31,849 --> 00:45:29,460 once we're able to confirm access to 970 00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:31,859 those journals with the anthropologists 971 00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:33,480 that's in charge of them 972 00:45:39,290 --> 00:45:36,720 wow that would be great and it's it's so 973 00:45:43,069 --> 00:45:39,300 interesting it's just so interesting how 974 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,079 these cultural myths lend so much 975 00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:46,319 Credence to this and you know Legends 976 00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:49,140 and myths are something that thrive 977 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:52,200 among the culture in the Solomon Islands 978 00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:55,800 but uh possibly the most captivating are 979 00:46:02,349 --> 00:45:59,220 the stories of giants who may still live 980 00:46:05,089 --> 00:46:02,359 deep within the jungles of Guadalcanal 981 00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:05,099 and what do you think 982 00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:08,760 is the likelihood that Giants may still 983 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,119 exist on our planet today 984 00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:15,599 I would love for that to you know be the 985 00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:16,560 case 986 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:19,319 um like I said that there's so much that 987 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:21,060 we just don't quite understand what's 988 00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:24,180 below us underneath our feet 989 00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:27,480 um you know a big part of my uh research 990 00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:29,400 and investigation is using a lot of 991 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:31,560 non-invasive 992 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:33,300 um techniques like ground penetrating 993 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:35,700 radar 3D ground Imaging to see what's 994 00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:38,640 below there and I always tell people you 995 00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:40,680 know they go oh it's it's impossible for 996 00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,140 that but think about it every year it 997 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,420 seems in New Mexico the cavern systems 998 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,460 that they're tracking grow by six to 11 999 00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:49,920 miles because they they find an area of 1000 00:46:54,890 --> 00:46:52,440 it that had collapsed they open it up 1001 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,900 and here's another nine miles of caverns 1002 00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,079 uh and it grows and it grows and it 1003 00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:00,480 grows and you hear the stories of the 1004 00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:03,000 Apache Indians you know getting away 1005 00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:05,339 from the U.S Cavalry in Arizona and 1006 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,079 popping up days later in New Mexico 1007 00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,480 without ever having been seen and that 1008 00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:11,579 they're joking and making fun of them 1009 00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:13,560 because they use the underground Cavern 1010 00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,300 system to get away from them all the 1011 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,480 time and then you know I've personally 1012 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:20,960 been in you into mountains underground 1013 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,480 where once you get about three tenths or 1014 00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:26,880 four tenths of a mile there's a massive 1015 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,640 underground Lake a lake 1016 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,440 that you have to Traverse to get into 1017 00:47:37,069 --> 00:47:33,839 the next Cavern system and only a couple 1018 00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:37,079 scuba divers have done it so far so yeah 1019 00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:40,200 I mean you know I mean look at where 1020 00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:43,020 what we're discovering these new cores 1021 00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:45,240 of iron and things that we didn't know 1022 00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:47,099 exist or thought existed so it's 1023 00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:49,140 absolutely possible at least I believe 1024 00:47:54,829 --> 00:47:50,660 it's possible 1025 00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:54,839 yeah I I I believe it is too I think uh 1026 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,700 you know once you've seen these Cavern 1027 00:48:03,109 --> 00:47:59,280 systems in Central America South America 1028 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:03,119 and around in Mexico it's it's 1029 00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:05,460 phenomenal and many of them as you 1030 00:48:10,609 --> 00:48:07,079 mentioned have water I mean they've got 1031 00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:10,619 everything you need to survive they go 1032 00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:14,220 for long distances even in in the uine 1033 00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:16,980 Basin of Utah we've we've discussed this 1034 00:48:24,829 --> 00:48:19,940 and I think it's interesting because 1035 00:48:29,630 --> 00:48:24,839 there are yearly a number of reports 1036 00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:29,640 that are including Giants uaps UFOs 1037 00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,760 and the NSA has a list of these and the 1038 00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:34,440 NSA reports to the president's 1039 00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:36,900 intelligence oversight board and there 1040 00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,839 is a number of these yearly that come 1041 00:48:46,130 --> 00:48:42,000 through whether people believe that 1042 00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:46,140 these may be Bigfoot UFOs uaps Etc what 1043 00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:48,839 are your thoughts kind of going into the 1044 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:52,319 UAP Arena if there is a correlation 1045 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:56,640 between these two what might it be 1046 00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,960 yeah you know that's just it's a hard 1047 00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:02,480 question to answer in 1048 00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:03,720 [Music] 1049 00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:07,319 in a small amount of words I I think the 1050 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:09,720 there's multiple possibilities and then 1051 00:49:16,430 --> 00:49:11,940 we start really getting into a 1052 00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:16,440 completely different uh topic of 1053 00:49:23,530 --> 00:49:21,540 um these possible gaps in our spatial 1054 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:23,540 and temporal field 1055 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,660 that are very possible when you go into 1056 00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:30,480 the physics of it through uh you know 1057 00:49:35,089 --> 00:49:32,460 electron diffusion regions and things of 1058 00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:35,099 that nature where there may very well be 1059 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,740 a possibility that there's spatial and 1060 00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:39,359 temporal differences in certain 1061 00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:42,420 locations and it's not just one or two 1062 00:49:47,569 --> 00:49:44,460 but there's multiple areas in the world 1063 00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:47,579 that appear to have this and those in 1064 00:49:55,609 --> 00:49:52,319 the past understood them and knew how to 1065 00:49:57,490 --> 00:49:55,619 interact with them uh whether that was 1066 00:50:01,490 --> 00:49:57,500 through 1067 00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:01,500 fasting and altering of frequency and 1068 00:50:07,069 --> 00:50:04,140 vibration through the use of musical 1069 00:50:09,050 --> 00:50:07,079 instruments and chanting or they use 1070 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:09,060 technology that we're not aware of and 1071 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,640 has been lost 1072 00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:13,200 there appear to be these locations in 1073 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:19,010 you're able to alter that spatial and 1074 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,160 temporal field 1075 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,800 and if you want to I mean a lot of 1076 00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:25,200 people are gonna say it and I'll use the 1077 00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:27,480 word a portal you know an 1078 00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:30,060 interdimensional portal or a Gateway a 1079 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,180 way of traveling I'm not sure how it 1080 00:50:38,569 --> 00:50:35,520 takes place or if there's multiple 1081 00:50:40,849 --> 00:50:38,579 possibilities of how that occurs 1082 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:40,859 but 1083 00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:43,920 if you think about someone else having 1084 00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:46,020 that capability or that technology or 1085 00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:48,660 that knowledge of knowing how to do this 1086 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,240 you know why can't they come in and out 1087 00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:53,640 of where we are you know people always 1088 00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,859 say the Bigfoot's there and you've never 1089 00:51:00,650 --> 00:50:58,079 been able to get a photo or a video or 1090 00:51:03,049 --> 00:51:00,660 see it maybe because we're sharing 1091 00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:03,059 you know space with it but not the right 1092 00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:05,400 time or the right time but not the right 1093 00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:06,660 space 1094 00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,420 and that's why I'm saying that this is a 1095 00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:10,800 topic and a 1096 00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:12,839 the discussion that could go on for 1097 00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:15,059 hours and hours because it's so rich in 1098 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:16,920 detail especially when you bring the 1099 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:19,380 possibility through physics and the math 1100 00:51:24,049 --> 00:51:22,200 that it's absolutely possible you know 1101 00:51:26,109 --> 00:51:24,059 and you got to discuss two Dimension 1102 00:51:28,849 --> 00:51:26,119 three dimension and 1103 00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:28,859 higher Dimensions that if something was 1104 00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:31,380 of a higher dimensional vibration 1105 00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:35,819 frequency or uh physical Mass we would 1106 00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,180 interact with it but maybe on those rare 1107 00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:41,400 occasions where it bends into our 1108 00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:43,740 three-dimensional world and we see these 1109 00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:46,800 shadow figures or we see a UAP 1110 00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,040 and then we have to think you know 1111 00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:52,559 think out of the box why does a UAP have 1112 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,160 to be a vehicle you know we use 1113 00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:58,559 telescopes to see from our planet to 1114 00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:01,079 other planets and there's a lens on both 1115 00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,260 ends right so why can't what we think is 1116 00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:07,440 a UF UAP this round ball not be a 1117 00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,660 three-dimensional telescope where 1118 00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:12,000 something's looking at one end that's 1119 00:52:17,450 --> 00:52:14,819 three-dimensional that's a ball and it's 1120 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,460 traversing through space and time uh 1121 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:20,160 whether that be a tunnel uh that's 1122 00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,720 created but on the other end is another 1123 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:24,240 round ball that pops into our 1124 00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:28,200 our space and we see it as a light uh or 1125 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,940 a an orb 1126 00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:31,920 and it's not just a telescope that 1127 00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:34,380 somebody's kind of you know looking in 1128 00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:37,140 on us and seeing what we're doing so I I 1129 00:52:43,609 --> 00:52:41,520 think the possibilities for so much 1130 00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:43,619 interaction between what people consider 1131 00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,940 a Cryptid or Giants or UFOs or the new 1132 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,099 you know the this unidentified aerial 1133 00:52:52,809 --> 00:52:51,839 phenomena 1134 00:52:56,329 --> 00:52:52,819 um 1135 00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,339 it's a matter of understanding is it 1136 00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:59,040 metaphysical is a physical there's just 1137 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,140 too many possibilities I mean it'd be a 1138 00:53:06,109 --> 00:53:03,119 great discussion to have over a three or 1139 00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:06,119 four hour podcast yeah and you know I 1140 00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:09,180 couldn't agree more I'm so mesmerized by 1141 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:11,700 that gray area in between that you're 1142 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,400 talking about and you know the idea of 1143 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:17,520 plasma intelligences and theories of 1144 00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:20,040 panspermia and I think that it could be 1145 00:53:26,750 --> 00:53:23,819 evidence that UFOs Nephilim and you know 1146 00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,760 to get into semantics even angels in 1147 00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:29,760 ancient scripture that these could all 1148 00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:31,020 be 1149 00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:34,380 elements that were actually something 1150 00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:38,099 alien to what we consider reality and I 1151 00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:40,260 don't mean alien in Little Green Men I 1152 00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,319 don't want to misinterpret that but kind 1153 00:53:49,609 --> 00:53:45,599 of uh along those same lines I think 1154 00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,619 it's super interesting how 1155 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,079 you know the genetics of it 1156 00:53:58,130 --> 00:53:54,960 does seem to quantify the possibility 1157 00:54:01,010 --> 00:53:58,140 that there was possibly 1158 00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:01,020 some manipulation genetically as you 1159 00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,520 mentioned that man has been around 1160 00:54:08,690 --> 00:54:05,520 longer than many historians believe he 1161 00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:08,700 was and you know I just think of that 1162 00:54:12,589 --> 00:54:10,740 girl I can't remember her name back in 1163 00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:12,599 2010 and how she 1164 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:14,760 how she came forward and described how 1165 00:54:19,609 --> 00:54:17,520 all U.S presidents were related I think 1166 00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:19,619 all except for Martin Van Buren I can't 1167 00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:21,480 remember exactly but they were all 1168 00:54:27,049 --> 00:54:25,380 related to King John of England and many 1169 00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:27,059 of the scientists came forward and said 1170 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:29,099 well yeah but this isn't a conspiracy 1171 00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,280 necessarily because mankind came 1172 00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,319 literally from one couple and that just 1173 00:54:39,049 --> 00:54:36,000 kind of leads us down the rabbit hole 1174 00:54:42,130 --> 00:54:39,059 what are your thoughts about that do you 1175 00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:42,140 think there may have been whether Cosmic 1176 00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,599 Divine or on some level alien some kind 1177 00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:48,000 of genetic manipulation to mankind at 1178 00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:49,740 some point 1179 00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:52,500 I think it's possible I mean you know 1180 00:54:56,089 --> 00:54:54,059 how is it that out of millions and 1181 00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:56,099 millions of species on this planet were 1182 00:55:03,049 --> 00:54:58,440 the only ones that are capable of of 1183 00:55:05,809 --> 00:55:03,059 thinking and and doing what we do you 1184 00:55:09,950 --> 00:55:05,819 know it it's mind-boggling how that's 1185 00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:09,960 even possible that only one one species 1186 00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:12,960 homo sapien sapien was capable of that I 1187 00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,660 just I I don't believe it I don't I 1188 00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:17,839 don't think 1189 00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:20,099 mathematically that that's even possible 1190 00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:22,680 it shouldn't have occurred so could 1191 00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:24,780 there have been manipulation yeah I mean 1192 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,940 you know if there was something of 1193 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:29,520 Greater intelligence that you know 1194 00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:34,079 spliced with uh a hominid to create us I 1195 00:55:39,230 --> 00:55:36,780 think that's a great possibility that 1196 00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:39,240 should be researched and investigated at 1197 00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:41,880 the academic level and not laughed out 1198 00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:45,300 and just considered pseudoscience 1199 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,020 yeah it is man it's such a it's such an 1200 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,359 awesome and interesting rabbit hole 1201 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,760 because you know what comes to mind not 1202 00:55:57,470 --> 00:55:55,440 bringing it back to the Basin but it 1203 00:56:00,109 --> 00:55:57,480 seems like all roads do lead to the you 1204 00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,119 in a basin in some way shape or form and 1205 00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:03,680 I'm reminded of the crispr technologies 1206 00:56:10,849 --> 00:56:07,619 that are being uh funded and looked into 1207 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,859 by Brandon fugel when it comes to the 1208 00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:13,680 woolly mammoth and you know I just think 1209 00:56:17,089 --> 00:56:15,059 to myself 1210 00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:17,099 you know what are the possibilities if 1211 00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:19,800 we were to go extinct yet we were able 1212 00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:23,160 to bring back this creature that the 1213 00:56:28,190 --> 00:56:26,280 future you know might be held in the 1214 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,200 realm of something that we genetically 1215 00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,720 modified and yet it takes the Helm of 1216 00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,000 our reality and I don't know there's 1217 00:56:38,089 --> 00:56:35,880 just there's so much and so so many so 1218 00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,099 many places we could go with that I 1219 00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:39,839 could I could just talk to you forever I 1220 00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:42,300 love where your research is and what 1221 00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:44,940 what you know your conversations I they 1222 00:56:49,309 --> 00:56:47,160 could just go for hours and hours it's 1223 00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:49,319 awesome let's tell listeners as we kind 1224 00:56:53,569 --> 00:56:51,540 of wrap things up where they can get 1225 00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:53,579 more James Keenan follow what you're 1226 00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:55,920 doing and keep tabs on everything that 1227 00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,780 you're up to 1228 00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,760 sure so 1229 00:57:04,010 --> 00:57:02,160 um in the last year I had decided to go 1230 00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:04,020 ahead and put a lot of my research and 1231 00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:07,440 investigation out so I created a YouTube 1232 00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:12,559 channel it's uh the standard you know 1233 00:57:17,530 --> 00:57:15,359 www.youtube.com forward slash C forward 1234 00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:17,540 slash and then the important part is 1235 00:57:25,010 --> 00:57:22,440 James Keenan Giants and paranormal uh 1236 00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:25,020 and the J and the K are capitalized if 1237 00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:27,900 you're gonna search for it in YouTube so 1238 00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:30,900 it's James Keenan Giants and paranormal 1239 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:34,400 um I've put up I believe about 61 videos 1240 00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:38,400 of everything including my search for 1241 00:57:44,329 --> 00:57:41,940 what I believe is origin for mankind in 1242 00:57:47,150 --> 00:57:44,339 the Uinta Mountains known to the 1243 00:57:49,790 --> 00:57:47,160 mesoamericans as Tomlin Khan some of the 1244 00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:49,800 people in Utah have altered that to care 1245 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:51,660 chinob 1246 00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:57,230 very cool 1247 00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,339 sure oh and then also 1248 00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:01,440 um September 6th through 9th I'll be 1249 00:58:08,930 --> 00:58:05,599 speaking at phenomicon in Vernal 1250 00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:08,940 uh you know another great place to uh 1251 00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,460 kind of deal with the phenomena that's 1252 00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:13,440 occurring not just in Utah but 1253 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:14,819 throughout the world there's gonna be a 1254 00:58:20,329 --> 00:58:18,000 lot of good speakers there you know uh 1255 00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:20,339 talking about Cryptids especially 1256 00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:24,540 Bigfoot uh the phenomena occurring at 1257 00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:27,540 um you went to Basin and other things 1258 00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:29,339 you know I'm going to touch on the 1259 00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:33,000 Giants quite a bit not just in the 1260 00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:34,380 desert Southwest but throughout the 1261 00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:35,400 world 1262 00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:38,099 yeah I think these things merge and you 1263 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,920 have such a great way of describing you 1264 00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:42,960 know the reality of how they merge into 1265 00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:45,420 our reality and 1266 00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:47,880 um really quickly uh what are your 1267 00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:49,859 thoughts of the paleogenetics and 1268 00:58:54,049 --> 00:58:51,480 scientists saying that they can bring 1269 00:58:56,809 --> 00:58:54,059 back the woolly mammoths but maybe they 1270 00:58:59,809 --> 00:58:56,819 shouldn't the even they are unsure 1271 00:59:01,910 --> 00:58:59,819 I you know I I think people need to 1272 00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:01,920 start watching Jurassic Park and the 1273 00:59:05,930 --> 00:59:04,500 Terminator more to uh see what's going 1274 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,940 to happen if they start doing that and 1275 00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,240 start messing with AI 1276 00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,559 I think a lot of things I mean it's 1277 00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:12,480 pioneering work but I think you're right 1278 00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:16,260 A lot of these things could kind of uh 1279 00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:20,700 bite Us in the proverbial rear end 1280 00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:23,880 um what's interesting I think is that 1281 00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:25,619 the scientists that the companies called 1282 00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:28,980 colossal and uh obviously they're 1283 00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:32,040 they're trying to generate interest to 1284 00:59:35,089 --> 00:59:33,420 this from a conservation and 1285 00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:35,099 preservation standpoint because 1286 00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,260 obviously these are species that are 1287 00:59:42,410 --> 00:59:39,839 obviously not here anymore 1288 00:59:44,450 --> 00:59:42,420 um however what I find super fascinating 1289 00:59:48,049 --> 00:59:44,460 is that they say the resulting animal 1290 00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:48,059 known as a Mamo Fant would look and 1291 00:59:53,569 --> 00:59:50,940 presumably behave much like a woolly 1292 00:59:56,569 --> 00:59:53,579 mammoth but as you pointed out very 1293 00:59:57,710 --> 00:59:56,579 clearly we just don't know well what 1294 00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,720 will happen 1295 01:00:03,770 --> 00:59:59,520 yeah 1296 01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:03,780 nature in that way I mean that's my 1297 01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,220 personal belief 1298 01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:07,440 yeah I personally think you have a point 1299 01:00:11,809 --> 01:00:10,079 there and uh 1300 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,819 lastly 1301 01:00:15,410 --> 01:00:12,480 um 1302 01:00:18,589 --> 01:00:15,420 when it comes to your Utah work 1303 01:00:20,329 --> 01:00:18,599 you also have some books and I don't I 1304 01:00:22,430 --> 01:00:20,339 don't want to skip to the end and not 1305 01:00:23,809 --> 01:00:22,440 mention that you're also an author and 1306 01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:23,819 you have books for sale can you tell 1307 01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:26,339 listeners where they can purchase those 1308 01:00:34,910 --> 01:00:30,420 yes you can go to amazon.com forward 1309 01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:34,920 slash author forward slash James Keenan 1310 01:00:40,849 --> 01:00:36,799 and it's 1311 01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:40,859 k-e-e-n-a-n and all of my books are 1312 01:00:45,470 --> 01:00:43,260 listed there for sale and if you don't 1313 01:00:48,829 --> 01:00:45,480 like Amazon you can go to a Barnes Noble 1314 01:00:50,270 --> 01:00:48,839 store or Barnes Noble online and acquire 1315 01:00:53,569 --> 01:00:50,280 them that way 1316 01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:53,579 all was a great conversation James uh 1317 01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,500 keep fighting the good fight and doing 1318 01:01:00,530 --> 01:00:57,599 the awesome research I love everything 1319 01:01:02,210 --> 01:01:00,540 you're up to and can't wait to talk to 1320 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,220 you again sometime 1321 01:01:07,849 --> 01:01:05,280 sounds good I appreciate it thanks Ryan 1322 01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:07,859 love my conversations with James they 1323 01:01:11,809 --> 01:01:10,319 always lead to amazing and interesting 1324 01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:11,819 places 1325 01:01:16,130 --> 01:01:14,099 our world is so much more interesting 1326 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,140 than many would like us to believe 1327 01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:18,960 anyway uh thanks so much for listening 1328 01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:21,059 and until next time keep your eyes to 1329 01:01:34,530 --> 01:01:23,460 the skies feet on the ground but don't 1330 01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:42,069 [Music] 1331 01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:52,549 stop s blast off